Session 68 — July 2022

Frederic first asks whether he could be located at a different point in time and ask questions from there, since his birthday falls on a Sunday; the Wonders say it is possible but that most of his questions would then be academic and mental, so he drops it.

He then returns to their earlier statement that no fully conscious human has yet existed but one will, and asks how such a person would differ from figures who already seemed far more aware.

The Wonders answer that those figures were aware but not fully conscious: full consciousness means realizing oneself as a completeness in oneness, with no separation or division, whereas even the Nazarene saw himself as an ego personality and mind.

Mature consciousness and expression of soul essence can exist, but for most people even that expression is only partly conscious; 'fully conscious' means a soul essence that has matured to oneness with the All That Is.

They note that René is a complete extension of themselves with no real separation other than the ones his own mind and ego have chosen, and that although he is moving toward becoming one with them, he still sees himself as separate, since the ego personality is strong in everyone.

The mark of a fully conscious individual is not predicting past or future but that a choice in the moment and the awareness of that choice's movement exist simultaneously - choice and movement without separation.

Applied to Frederic: he still sees himself as Frederic, with a strong ego, a very strong mind and an excellent personality built from it, but still carries psychologies and belief structures that limit his exploration and that define his mind.

His mind does not see itself as part of a greater whole - it thinks only in terms of itself, reinforcing separation and constituting the immaturity of the mind.

Soul essence creates minds and extends itself into them, but in virtually all cases is unwilling to take command; a great deal of reawakening is needed for it to realize it can command the mind, and for the mind to realize it is only a tool.

When both happen there is an opportunity, not a guarantee, for soul essence and mind to become one, expressed in third-dimensional reality as a greater maturity.

The mind must then let go of defining itself as separate, so that 'Frederic the ego personality' becomes 'Frederic the soul' - though the soul does not call itself Frederic.

The soul essence must then do the same with the All That Is, which is why incarnation exists: to facilitate the soul essence reawakening to the fact that it is not separate from the All That Is and that separation is only a perception.

Asked whether the observer behind his ego is the soul essence, they answer that the observer begins with his personality and mind, while the one who commands is the soul essence - an awareness existing before ego began, experienced quite differently from how he experiences his existence now.

Soul essence, they say, is the very fine, almost silent voice inside that encourages him toward one direction or another among the choices available in the moment, while the mind is the one declaring how it will think, act and choose.

Asked where he stands in this reawakening, Frederic says he feels different but is unsure what he did.

The Wonders say the many conversations and constructs they have explored have fuelled his imagination and planted seeds now slowly germinating; he is beginning to reawaken to command rather than control, is still in the process, is not fully in command of himself, and knows more about himself than ever before, though his sense of limitlessness is still being toyed with rather than grasped.

Frederic asks about the subconscious and unconscious as parts of the mind, and whether subconscious minds see separation between each other despite the communication that seems to happen at that level.

The Wonders confirm the communication, and say he has in fact experienced the removal of separation between subconscious minds: in the deepest part of sleep, where the conscious mind is absent, his subconscious reawakens to that interconnection for approximately 38 seconds each night.

Although brief by the conscious mind's measure, time is not the same for the subconscious, for which it is long enough to accomplish a great deal - though it is almost always forgotten.

The sense that he has changed comes from the movement occurring in those 38 seconds: his subconscious is growing, his awareness of his ability to command is growing, his awareness of who he really is is growing, and his connection - still limited to a few people he chooses to connect with - is expanding, so that he is just beginning to realize he can connect with all of existence at any time, while his ego and mind remain firmly in charge, asking 'but do I want to?'.

Frederic recognizes that 'do I want to' response, citing his mild tinnitus and noticing a part of him that does not want to change it; the Wonders say his mind likes to play with constructs and with its ability to control.

Asked whether more time in that state, or different choices, would matter, they say the state lasts 38 seconds because he is an ego personality and mind with varying degrees of separation from his soul essence, and that the 38 seconds is the opportunity to explore outside that control mechanism - sufficient for the subconscious to explore everything it can in that moment.

The moment the sleep becomes less deep it is lost.

They compare it to descending a deep drilled hole while holding your breath, touching the bottom and having to shoot straight back up for air, which is why one often twitches and jumps in bed.

Frederic asks whether a 'fully conscious human' refers to the conscious mind.

The Wonders confirm it does: the conscious mind has moved with the subconscious, and the subconscious has reached a stage where those 38 seconds are much wider, broader and deeper, so the limitation no longer applies.

No one is there yet, though some achieve a near perspective through meditation.

Frederic observes that people he has met who reach such states often return to what he would call normal life because they enjoy it so much.

The Wonders agree, citing René's own statement that he loves being physical: the problems, frustrations, fears, angers and loves are a play field, like a circus where you can try any ride.

René enjoys this life while also wanting to be conscious enough to move between third-dimensional reality and other dimensions and know himself in both.

Anyone who has meditated deeply and reached a degree of command loves to play with life; nobody wishes not to be physical.

The point is not to escape the playground but to know that it is a playground being enjoyed imaginatively, rather than believing that it is real and all there is.

Frederic recalls that when their conversations began there was much more talk about extending lifespan, and says he knows nobody actually playing with those limits - even people who enjoy their lives still subscribe to the supposed general human limits.

The Wonders agree about the average person, note some reach about 120 (mostly in Japan, from a rice-based diet) but by the same approach, and say a very few in the world have extended their lives yet ultimately succumb to the construct that reality is limited.

This is why they have spoken to humanity for so long: reality is limited only to the degree one makes it so.

If Frederic truly knew himself as limitless he would see the extent to which his choices affect his health and longevity - the stress of living, accumulated since childhood, has already shortened it, and understanding that would let him release the stress and reclaim the longevity.

His cells are easily capable of replenishing themselves with the vital energy of life, but the mind interferes, insisting on a fixed lifespan and that life and death are part of living; he carries a psychology that one is born, lives and dies, and his choices flow from it, itself stressing his life - and even saying 'I would like to live longer' stresses the point.

Considerable stress healing is required before he can let go of control completely and realize himself as a command essence with no limits but self-imposed ones.

Asked what stress healing means, they describe it as beginning with everything currently stressing him, then discovering more beneath it, then more again, layer after layer, so the deeper he goes the longer it takes to see the stress that exists.

Even the stress of aging has affected him: thinking that a given decline is normal for his age is false - it is normal only because people accept its normality, whereas the body's genetics were always intended as a long-term vessel, with environmental dynamics and the mind's judgments having shortened that.

Frederic asks whether stress is basically resistance, which they confirm, joking about the Borg's 'resistance is futile'.

They add that no individual is currently at that level; some are beginning to pass 120 but do not advertise it, since their fear of being subjected to scientific experimentation is itself a stress affecting them.

Work on one part of life always reveals another part needing work.

Frederic proposes that the way to handle all this is to deal with whatever arrives in the given moment.

The Wonders agree - there is no point thinking about past or future, all he has is now, and being in the future or the past is being in distress.

He asks whether it is really possible not to be there at all, since thinking uses memories and so is a form of being in the past.

They say no: one can think without memories, and that is where the mind was intended to be - a tool for thinking in this moment.

Asked whether that means no voice in the head, since a voice is words based on memory, they ultimately agree with him while noting there are many steps between now and then.

Frederic says thinking to him means words, images or feelings referring to something; they reply that this is what he knows, drawn from his experience and those around him, and ask what if thinking were simply choice.

Frederic says that framing would finally make sense of the claim that thoughts create reality, which as he currently conceives thoughts does not make sense.

The Wonders remind him that the mind was created as a tool to navigate third-dimensional reality, not to remember or anticipate, but that on being created it began to judge, and everything flowed from that first judgment - and judgment is based on the past.

They illustrate: one second after birth the mind compares that second with the moment of birth and has already judged; it then instantly projects to the next second, creating judgment of the future, of the present, and of the second just past, and continues that way indefinitely.

Frederic asks the trickier question of how one gets out of that, and the Wonders answer that this is where choice is very important, as the session ends.